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Posted : 29/07/10 / Views : 2381 / Replies : 32 /
GUY5 395 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	"A former 'Britain's Got Talent' performer is suing for £2.5m after claiming that she was humiliated on the talent show. Emma Amelia Pearl Czikai is seeking £300,000 for injured feelings, £1.25m for loss of earnings and a further £1m in compensation from the programme makers. During her performance, both Simon Cowell and Piers Morgan pressed their buzzer before Emma finished singing the first line of ‘You Raise Me Up', while third judge Amanda Holden halted the song completely after she buzzed at the chorus. Emma claims that her performance suffered as a result of her medical condition cervical spine neuritis, which can cause head and shoulder pain and therefore affects her ability to hear her own singing voice. Speaking at yesterday's pre-trial review at a central London tribunal court, the singer, who is representing herself, accused the programme and its judges of "exploitation, humiliation, degradation and barbarism". She also said the show was guilty of disability discrimination because special adjustments weren't made to her backing music and microphone levels. She told the court: "This programme makes a select number of rich people very, very rich on the backs of the ordinary man and woman in the street through exploitation, humiliation, degradation and a re-emergence of modern-day barbarism with all its inherent cruelty." The outcome of the pre-trial review will determine whether a full hearing goes ahead. "

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Posted : 22/07/10
BlakeJ 1437 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	You know, I thin its very interesting. I wonder if a study has ever been done on the psychological effects of auditions on actors? Surely Equity would be well off making a "code of conduct" for auditions that all theatre companies need to agree to? I think that these talent shows are DESIGNED to humiliate Not to get the best out of actors or contestents. So I can well believe it- and i support the lawsuit. these are HUMAN BEINGS.. and irrespective that they are mostly useless and hopelessly deluded... does that give any one the right to mock them?

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Posted : 22/07/10

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You know,

I thin its very interesting. I wonder if a study has ever been done on the psychological effects of auditions on actors? Surely Equity would be well off making a "code of conduct" for auditions that all theatre companies need to agree to?

I think that these talent shows are DESIGNED to humiliate Not to get the best out of actors or contestents.

So I can well believe it- and i support the lawsuit. these are HUMAN BEINGS.. and irrespective that they are mostly useless and hopelessly deluded... does that give any one the right to mock them?

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Posted : 22/07/10
peterhalpin 236 posts last on: 4 hours send private reply	She would have been perfectly aware of the nature of the show before taking part. She is a stupid, materialistic and gold-digging idiot. It is the judges discretion as to whether they want her to progress or not. They decided not. Get over it, move on and go back to earning your millions as your 'loss of earnings' indicates you do. Sympathy? X X X

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Posted : 22/07/10
lainyscott 34 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	Nope Im sorry, I heard about this a few weeks ago and I think its rediculous. I understand she has a condition, but she cannot honestly expect to be a live singer if this is the case. Its the equvilent of a neuro-surgeon having a disability that makes their hands shake in a stressful situation. Harsh, but ultimately true. These programmes have been around for years and every single audition-stage episode features people being rejected and laughed at - by the judges, presenters and the viewers. She cannot HONESTLY say she didnt think this could happen. Not because of her disability, but because, even the best performer on a bad day could be laughed at, especially if the judges are already in a flipant or giggily mood. ANYONE who agrees to enter thesse shows must be prepared to be rejected and/or humiliated. This needs to be thrown out, or next I will be suing the bbc for not hiring me. I havent auditioned for them recently, but if this case is entertained then surely Ive got grounds..?

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Posted : 22/07/10

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Nope Im sorry, I heard about this a few weeks ago and I think its rediculous. I understand she has a condition, but she cannot honestly expect to be a live singer if this is the case. Its the equvilent of a neuro-surgeon having a disability that makes their hands shake in a stressful situation. Harsh, but ultimately true.

These programmes have been around for years and every single audition-stage episode features people being rejected and laughed at - by the judges, presenters and the viewers. She cannot HONESTLY say she didnt think this could happen. Not because of her disability, but because, even the best performer on a bad day could be laughed at, especially if the judges are already in a flipant or giggily mood. ANYONE who agrees to enter thesse shows must be prepared to be rejected and/or humiliated.

This needs to be thrown out, or next I will be suing the bbc for not hiring me. I havent auditioned for them recently, but if this case is entertained then surely Ive got grounds..?

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Posted : 22/07/10
markkempner 1113 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	Ha ...hillarious: I'm sure most of you already know this: what a lot of the gen public don't realise is, the Kid would have gone through 2-3 even 4 rounds prior to being selected to be on TV in front of the 3 MAIN judges...So if she does have a case....then she should be gunning for the idiots who kept putting her through to face the 3 main judges for the 1st times. Everyone knows by now this is a modern day version of the Old style of "Gladiators in the Lions Den" entertainment It's ridicule TV ...and predictable reality genre at it's worst. Susan Boyle isn't famous because she can sing a bit.....The producers know..Who would watch it if the Judges were not to add in a few odd and or lousy ones...and then pretend..badly... they are shocked at their performance level, and then treat in this way. I'd have a bet...the show and or Simon's massive PR machine has set the whole law suit up in the 1st place!! Even more publicity after all!! Having said all that...I hope she wins, as that may just start it's demise!

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Posted : 22/07/10

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Ha ...hillarious:
I'm sure most of you already know this: what a lot of the gen public don't realise is, the Kid would have gone through 2-3 even 4 rounds prior to being selected to be on TV in front of the 3 MAIN judges...So if she does have a case....then she should be gunning for the idiots who kept putting her through to face the 3 main judges for the 1st times.

Everyone knows by now this is a modern day version of the Old style of "Gladiators in the Lions Den" entertainment It's ridicule TV ...and predictable reality genre at it's worst.

Susan Boyle isn't famous because she can sing a bit.....The producers know..Who would watch it if the Judges were not to add in a few odd and or lousy ones...and then pretend..badly... they are shocked at their performance level, and then treat in this way.

I'd have a bet...the show and or Simon's massive PR machine has set the whole law suit up in the 1st place!! Even more publicity after all!!

Having said all that...I hope she wins, as that may just start it's demise!

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Posted : 22/07/10
NathanHead 992 posts last on: 26/01/12 send private reply	well im not a singer, so i can't really comment on the proceedure during singing audition. But I've attended enough acting auditions to know that it's my own choice to go up there and do my thing in front of strangers. If i get the job then it's super. But everyone understands that they will be seen in front of people, even moreso on a reaility show. plus, this woman in particular wasn't very good at singing and she did seem to have an incredibly cocky attitude..... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x98lad_emma-amelia-pearl-czikai-britains-g_shortfilms

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Posted : 22/07/10

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well im not a singer, so i can't really comment on the proceedure during singing audition. But I've attended enough acting auditions to know that it's my own choice to go up there and do my thing in front of strangers. If i get the job then it's super.

But everyone understands that they will be seen in front of people, even moreso on a reaility show.

plus, this woman in particular wasn't very good at singing and she did seem to have an incredibly cocky attitude.....

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x98lad_emma-amelia-pearl-czikai-britains-g_shortfilms

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Posted : 22/07/10
NathanHead 992 posts last on: 26/01/12 send private reply	just to add... I do understand that everyone auditioning on the show is a human being with feelings, but as Laimy points out- it's not like these shows are new. Everyone knows what to expect from the first few filmed rounds... Those who aren't winning material get buzzed off and get colourful feedback. we all know this, the whole world knows this. This woman knew exactly what would happen if she didn't get through to the next round. she KNEW... yet she is still complaining that it happened? even though there is only one winner of the show? and even those who get down to the last few live finals get negative feedback if they get knocked out... she's just after a quick buck i reckon. watching her filmed audition piece (the one in front of the judges and audience) she wasn't even taking herself seriously.

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Posted : 22/07/10

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just to add... I do understand that everyone auditioning on the show is a human being with feelings, but as Laimy points out- it's not like these shows are new. Everyone knows what to expect from the first few filmed rounds... Those who aren't winning material get buzzed off and get colourful feedback. we all know this, the whole world knows this.

This woman knew exactly what would happen if she didn't get through to the next round. she KNEW... yet she is still complaining that it happened? even though there is only one winner of the show? and even those who get down to the last few live finals get negative feedback if they get knocked out...

she's just after a quick buck i reckon.

watching her filmed audition piece (the one in front of the judges and audience) she wasn't even taking herself seriously.

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Posted : 22/07/10
leeravitz 1543 posts last on: 5 hours send private reply	Can we counter sue? I would plead my case like this: She, as a reality TV show contestant, has encouraged and perpetuated the continuation of exploitative and cheap mass consumption television that has been driving down the marketplace value of quality televised drama for well over a decade. As a trained actor, and member of my Union, I have no doubt that much of what would have otherwise been my work supply has been vitally reduced in the past decade by the incessant spread of reality television. Therefore, I would like to sue her for something in the region of several million pounds of lost earnings, which she can pay out of the fund that she hopes to take off Simon Cowell et. al. Ker-ching!!

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Posted : 22/07/10

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Can we counter sue? I would plead my case like this: She, as a reality TV show contestant, has encouraged and perpetuated the continuation of exploitative and cheap mass consumption television that has been driving down the marketplace value of quality televised drama for well over a decade. As a trained actor, and member of my Union, I have no doubt that much of what would have otherwise been my work supply has been vitally reduced in the past decade by the incessant spread of reality television. Therefore, I would like to sue her for something in the region of several million pounds of lost earnings, which she can pay out of the fund that she hopes to take off Simon Cowell et. al. Ker-ching!!

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Posted : 22/07/10
GUY5 395 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	She told the court: "This programme makes a select number of rich people very, very rich on the backs of the ordinary man and woman in the street through exploitation, humiliation, degradation and a re-emergence of modern-day barbarism with all its inherent cruelty." Knowing all of this she still went ahead and auditioned!! The funny thing is I'd like to see her win it would be hysterical!! All of a sudden HUGE damages paid out to all the canon fodder for these crap shows!!

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Posted : 22/07/10

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She told the court: "This programme makes a select number of rich people very, very rich on the backs of the ordinary man and woman in the street through exploitation, humiliation, degradation and a re-emergence of modern-day barbarism with all its inherent cruelty."

Knowing all of this she still went ahead and auditioned!!

The funny thing is I'd like to see her win it would be hysterical!! All of a sudden HUGE damages paid out to all the canon fodder for these crap shows!!

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Posted : 22/07/10
GUY5 395 posts last on: 07/02/12 send private reply	Incidentally Mark I believe you're right this has to be a PR stunt but I'd love the show to get walloped by it!

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Posted : 22/07/10
leeravitz 1543 posts last on: 5 hours send private reply	Wait a minute. It's a 're-emergence of modern-day barbarism' ??? Surely this is a self - defeating sentence?? If the barbarism being perpetrated is 'modern day' then clearly it must be happening now, and cannot 're-emerge' from anywhere. Or is she wishing to imply that the savagery on show during the audition stages of 'Britain's Got Talent' is truly a reversion to the worst excesses of 20th century amorality, Stalinist show trial, McCarthyite witchhunting and The Great Leap Forward?? ;) If so, then I take my hat off to her for seeing in the orchestrated rallying of crowd response during live semi-finals something of the quality of fascistic showmanship. But, let's face it, she probably wasn't intending to make that point.

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Posted : 22/07/10

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Wait a minute. It's a 're-emergence of modern-day barbarism' ??? Surely this is a self - defeating sentence?? If the barbarism being perpetrated is 'modern day' then clearly it must be happening *now*, and cannot 're-emerge' from anywhere. Or is she wishing to imply that the savagery on show during the audition stages of 'Britain's Got Talent' is truly a reversion to the worst excesses of 20th century amorality, Stalinist show trial, McCarthyite witchhunting and The Great Leap Forward?? ;)

If so, then I take my hat off to her for seeing in the orchestrated rallying of crowd response during live semi-finals something of the quality of fascistic showmanship.

But, let's face it, she probably wasn't intending to make that point.

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